13. How Men Lead and Women Submit with Mark Santiago

Welcome back to the Katie Mae Show. Where Katie a marriage and relationship coach who uses tangible tools, experience, and guidance to help women transform their marriages into what they’ve always dreamed of.  

In today’s episode, Katie is joined by Mark Santiago from the Empowered Man for a conversation on the roles of men and women in a relationship. Katie and Mark break stigmas, speak truth, and share experiences on men’s leadership roles in a marriage and how women are submissive. 

This conversation is real and raw both Mark and Katie ultimately hone into the importance of doing the work within yourself to lead to the marriage you want. Listeners will receive both the male and female perspectives in this episode. 

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